John

Lesser evilism doesn’t work.

This is so unbelievably wrong.

Read The Extended Universe How Disney Killed the Movies and Took Over the World. Disney is one of the shittiest companies.

What do you mean? I’m an active member in DSA for years now. I’m active in rapid response groups. I’m fighting against Proud Boys and ICE. I make and distribute whistle kits. I’m part of the Community Defense working group and I help marshal events, and add security. I make maps and voter lists for our electoral working group to canvass. I march with striking workers and provide labor support. I provide child care so people can attend events like chapter meetings without worrying about their kids. I’m active in our campaigns against datacenters and flock cameras; I’ve gone to many many board meetings and town halls to voice these concerns and get the communities active. Similar with our BDS campaign. I’ve personally gotten many people signed up and active.

What have you done lately?

Considering the USSR by and large killed more Nazis than anybody, I’d say a shitload of community organizing stopped them.

Show up alone, you get arrested. Show up with 100 people, you get shot. Show up with 100,000 people, now we have a movement. Will your neighbors show up with you? Or will you face the Nazis alone?

I’m not

you might want to start, instead of armchair arguing against DSA…

We outnumber them hella more than that. The question is, have you been organizing in your community?

How are you organizing your community?

Is it a good move for a DSA candidate to primary Bernie Sanders?

You’re simply being pedantic.

“You bet your ass if Bernie continued Zionist takes that he will not have support of DSA (hell, he lost the support of his own staff, as I sourced). AOC lost her national endorsement for these exact reasons. Are we going to primary AOC and Bernie? Likely not; our efforts/money are better spent elsewhere.”

literally entrenched in the comments

Replying to comments = “entrenched”?

You aren’t criticizing, you are attacking.

Agree to disagree.

It’s not like I’m just making stuff up…

Why ml’s continue to attack the only hope of progressive leadership in the US is a mystery to me.

I’m a very active member of DSA. I help our electoral working group with cutting turfs and other needs. We’ve worked hard to get support for our endorsed candidates in the primary, and are currently still working hard for our endorsed candidate for the midterm. We’ve helped successfully flipped our county blue for the first time in 100 years. We’ve prevented fascists and christian maniacs from attacking and getting onto local school and library boards.

I’ve active in my community defense working group, getting my community training on firearms, first aid, gardening, getting people active in fitness and hiking. I’m active in our ICE watch group, I’ve protested at ICE buildings numerous times. I help make ICE whistle kits every week that we hand out to community members to help keep them safe. I’m active in our poll patrol group, which makes sure that our polls are kept safe and free from interference.

I’m active in our Child Watch program, allowing parents to attend events and be active without worry of care for their children. I’m active in our BDS campaign and our campaign against Surveillance Apparatus (data centers, FLOCK, etc). I help make maps for our team to canvass businesses put up flyers and info about ICE and KYR placards.

I attend pro-palestine car rallies and banner drops. I help marshall protests and events. I’ve literally fought with Proud Boys and other fascists.

I’ve marched with striking teachers and other union members. I’ve provided water, food, and monetary assistance to strikers.

I’ve onboarded many people into DSA. I table at Pride fests and personally got hundreds of people signed up for DSA and activated them.

What have you done to organize your community!? How dare you attack my dedication to progressing Socialism in my community.

Bernie is our only hope? The momentum of Socialism is not hinged on one single person. It is a mass movement. Bernie is not the sole arbiter of Socialism in the USA.

What’s up with .ml users

ad hominem.

attacking people like Bernie, AOC, and Mamdani so often?

Criticism isn’t “attacking”.

Oh yea, and all those quotes you put there, was because we pressured these people with criticism.

Do you think it’s a good move for DSA to primary Bernie Sanders? I hope not. Because that would be political suicide.

Comrade, the momentum of Socialism is not hinged on one single person. It is a mass movement. He’s not even the best representation of what DSA/Socialism is. If an member or ally of DSA, certainly an elected, has policies or views that go against the platform of DSA and Socialism in general, we will act accordingly. We will not just mindlessly follow so-called Socialist members in congress if they have views/policies that go against our platform. I literally posted the codified resolution DSA made last summer to address things exactly such as this, albeit. While Bernie is not a DSA member, is he wants our help or endorsement, he must meet certain criteria.

If you’re analysis is not based on moves to make actual material change I don’t think you should call yourself an ML.

I repeat, Socialism is not hinged on one single person. It is a mass movement. We are making move across the country. Bernie is not the sole arbiter of Socialism in the USA.

All I want from you: “yeah, DSA trying to primary Bernie would be a really bad idea and cause confusion within the voting population. I was just pointing to him as an example of how much our momentum has moved left”

You bet your ass if Bernie continued Zionist takes that he will not have support of DSA (hell, he lost the support of his own staff, as I sourced). AOC lost her national endorsement for these exact reasons. Are we going to primary AOC and Bernie? Likely not; our efforts/money are better spent elsewhere.

If you are listening to people in DSA seriously consider trying to primary Bernie you are likely talking to a CIA op.

There is plenty of criticism of Bernie within DSA. It’s not a CIA op lmfao, the guy literally almost lost his entire staff because he wouldn’t support a ceasefire and refused to call it a genocide.

thank you for the insight. Blocked.

I think the word Zionist is too nebulous for me

He previously cheered on Israel, criticized Gaza, defended the bombing of Palestinians, and refused to acknowledge the genocide. How is that nebulous?

No chance he gets primaried. Your views are an extreme minority

My reply here: https://lemmy.ml/post/49472329/26470085

DSA has codified anti-zionism into its bylaws. There is also an expulsion process (restorative rather than punitive). We also have the ability to rescind endorsements of those who do not follow our anti-zionist or bds platform. The point is to avoid unyielding fealty to DSA members in perpetuity even if they do not abide by our platform.

Conveniently, Bernie has finally shifted his stance last year. I think you’re consistently missing my point. I don’t think Bernie is in any danger. I’m simply acknowledging the situation in which he would be, which isn’t that much of a stretch considering his past stances.

If the DSA started talking shit publicly about Bernie

Plenty of DSA and other Socialists criticize Bernie. The reality is, he’s not that far left of center. That’s fine, DSA is big tent, and there’s plenty of room on the Dem ballot line for sort-of-left-of-center. I’ve acknowledged his role in onboarding countless people to DSA and Socialism. I’ve also laid out his shortcomings. What else do you want from me?

You seem like a troll. Good luck. Blocked.

https://www.grassrootsthinking.com/nonviolence-is-violence-too-somebodys-gotta-die/

I’ll take the anti-zionist, anti-genocide, anti-imperialist purity test any day of the week.

Thankfully, the road to Socialism isn’t through popular vote. Know your history. ;-)

And yet we’re seeing a surge of support for Socialism across the country. We’re seeing progressive policies passing in places that Trump even won in. DSA membership is surging like never before. More and more people are sympathizing and on board with the destruction of Capitalism and billionaires.

Sanders is just one man. We have a mass movement on our hands.