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  • Almost like Israel, as a nation built to protect human rights from genocide and make the world safer for one people who suffered greatly, should know not to commit genocide.

    The reason we are meant to study history is to stop repeating the mistakes from the worst of humanity. Instead fascists and racists seem to use it as a lesson as to how to try to consolidate power.

    We also need to learn how not to dehumanise other spoke by dividing them into us and them. It’s part of our base instinct from an evolutionary standpoint. But in a world no longer formed of tribes, with rule of law and interconnected societies, ot serves only those who wish to manipulate.




  • Its also not wrong. I think the idea of something like Israel, after the holocaust is not a bad idea. Just terrible implementation with using someone else’s land and also land that is important in most global religions.

    There is lots of spare land in Australia and Canada and others, with values about protecting human rights. They should have been given territory somewhere like that as a safe place for Jews to be, without fear.

    Its cone full circle though, and now Israel is using Jewishness to oppress. Any criticism is branded anti-Semitic. Most people like the UK green party have no problem with Judaism. Heck, their leader is Jewish.

    The problem is with genocide. Not Jews or Judaism. Those committing genocide just happen to be Jewish. It’s not racism against white people to say Russia is committing war crimes. It just happens that the only Jewish country is the one that is committing crimes against humanity. If they were of a different religion, it’s still genocide.

    Israel is hated by most of their neighbours, who would also do awful things to them, given the opportunity. Some of that is historical racism. Some is due to Israeli actions. That doesn’t mean killing children is permissable. That doesn’t mean taking more land is permissable. That doesn’t mean Jews or Israelis are inherently bad. It means humans are easily turned against each other. Which is why we have laws and international law and standards.

    Hamas is a terrorist organisation and also a government. Similar to how nelson Mandela was a terrorist. And many sinn fein politicians in northern Ireland. The oath forward is non violence and recognising crimes.






  • You sand you think musicians should out pressure on power, but also said you don’t blame him for trying to be neutral.

    That implies 2 things.

    One, that even if you don’t agree with his stance, staying neutral is somehow still an idealistic endeavour. In this case, it’s greed, not ideals. It has been pointed out by numerous people that he has taken sides in other world events, like Ukraine. It also negates his actions to drop Macklemore under pressure. That is not staying neutral.

    Two, it also implies that there is an option to stay neutral when genocide is concerned. We all should be against it. In fact, as a species, we have made laws and treaties specifically about it, through the UN.

    So, I understand what you’re saying, but it doesn’t hold water. You’re trying to both sides the issue, in the same way he did. He’s rightly getting criticised for it, including partly by you, but also let off by you.