I bet I can take worse photos with my Sony A9 :D

Logitech is swiss, and they used to make mice in Europe. Its all Chinese/Asia now though.

Rollerball mice would definitely be easy to do, but laser and optical mice require pretty advanced CMOS sensors. Developing a brand new sensor and being competive would be very hard.

Keyboards are easy, not much specialised components, and Cherry is already German (and still made in Slovakia if google is to be believed). Some injection moulded plastic, basic PCBs and a microcontroller.

Also mostly things that no company would want to try start manufacturing from scratch either. The margins on most of them would be razor thin, it would be impossible to compete with the established players.

If Europe wants to become a manufacturing powerhouse, it can’t be by making existing things, it has to be by innovating and making new things.

Bluray was good, but it has some fairly big limited for today’s media.

And why is that? Because Netflix and other Publishers …

So, I said bluray was “limited” (actually mean to write “limits”, thanks autocorrect), and your reply was “because Netflix …”. I dont know how you meant it, but I dont think my interpretation of what you wrote in direct response was willfully misinterpreting you. Either way, my apologies for misunderstanding you.

You implied that Netflix played a part in limited bluray. I punched that up to controls, but thats beside the point.

My point is, rather than making a european bluray factory, which would ultimately just be running a loss while paying fees to Sony anyway, a new format could both be better for consumers, and better for Europe. Its a long shot, but far better investment that trying to break into a saturated market.

EuroDisk/EuroFlash can be the name of this hypothetical new format.

So, bluray is stepped on and controlled by Netflix as you claim, WHY KEEP MAKING THEM. Make something better and break from their control.

I’m not allowed to poop anyone’s party anymore, so all I’ll say is that if “trickle upward” means to you that there is space for a new upstart in the industry, then I’m happy for you.

And I said bluray was winding down, not wound down. Itll probably keep going for another 10-15 years, maybe 25 if we’re lucky. Same deal, if you think there is room for a profitable new enterprise, awesome, Id love to be proven wrong.

Edit: Okay, that was still pretty party poopy, so how about this:

Rather than cling to last years tech, why not create the futures physical medium. EuroFlash/EuroDisk. Make the next gen. Bluray was good, but it has some fairly big limited for today’s media. Sony seems uninterested in physical media, so there is a real open market for something new and better to take hold. And so far, its an empty race.

A vocal minority is pushing back, but the writing has been on the wall for physical media for a long time before Sony started removing it from the PS5.

A small minority of enthusiasts isnt enough to make a bluray factory viable.

Happy to be proven wrong though, but I dont see it happening.

Brave to build a CD player factory for a medium that is on life support. Even bluray is being wound down by the rest of the world.

I converted a Sony nex5r to IR last year, but only managed to get around to trying to capture Orion’s belt just recently. Cranking ISO all the way up I get the faintest red band where it should be, but also a ton of noise.

I need to get out again and take a lot more shots next time. Unfortunately the Nex5r doesn’t allow for continuous shooting, so I’ve been writing an app to trigger the shots for me.

Hopefully one day I’ll get something this good!